Who is Martin Gladstone?
ANALYSIS / Why has he been trying to defund Pride Toronto?
Tim McCaskell / National / Friday, May 28, 2010
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This has been a rocky spring for Toronto Pride. Among many issues, the most explosive has been the participation of Queers Against Israeli Apartheid in the Pride parade.

The controversy has left most people in the LGBT community scratching their heads. Pride has always been a place where various queer groups, organized around a variety of issues, present themselves to the community. Although the parade has always included many viewpoints, there have never been problems. Why all this fuss about QuAIA? Why has the city suddenly waded in? Why is the right-wing press on a rampage?

Central to this tempest in the Pride teapot is Martin Gladstone, an estate lawyer who is now being described in the straight press as a gay activist. You can be excused if you’ve never heard of Gladstone before. I can find no trace of any gay activism until he got his knickers in a knot about QuAIA a year or so ago. But after last year’s Pride he produced a homemade hour-long video, Reclaiming Our Pride, which rather clumsily tries to portray QuAIA as an anti-Semitic hate group, despite the large number of Jews in our membership. He then took his video around to the city and Pride corporate sponsors to convince them to cut funding to the festival because Pride had allowed us to march.

Gladstone might be written off as another busybody with a bone to pick, but that doesn’t explain the huge fuss he’s managed to cause, with the city threatening Pride funding and corporate sponsors running for cover.
The promotional poster for Gladstone's film, Reclaiming our Pride.

The fuss does make sense, however, if we look at the broader picture — a concerted attempt across the country to shut down any discussion of what is going on in Israel and Palestine: Israel’s 40-some year military occupation of the West Bank and Gaza, its illegal settlements, ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, human rights abuses, the apartheid wall, continuing inequality for Palestinian citizens of Israel, the denial of the right of return of Palestinian refugees, and last year’s war crimes in Gaza. That’s a lot of nasty stuff that a coalition of Tories, Christian fundamentalists and the Israel lobby have decided Canadians shouldn’t be allowed to talk about. Pride is just one target.

The Harper government is central to trying to keep the lid on criticism of Israeli policies. It banned British member of parliament George Galloway from entering Canada because he supports Palestinian rights, as well as Moustafa Barghoutti, a Palestinian MP at the forefront of the non-violent movement against the occupation. It tried to close down an academic conference on Israel at York University last year. It harassed the president of the federal human rights group Rights and Democracy for funding groups that support Palestinian rights. The man finally died of a heart attack. It cut off funding to the Canadian Arab Federation and the church group KAIROS because it spoke out about the massacre in Gaza.

Interestingly, Harper’s motive for all this doesn’t seem to be to attract support from the Jewish community. Jews make up only about one percent of the Canadian electorate and are themselves divided on unquestioned support for Israel. Harper is actually trying to shore up support among Christian fundamentalists, about 10 percent of the population, who have the strange belief that a major war in the Middle East will make Jesus return to earth. They figure that unconditional support for Israel will help provoke such a war. And as Marci McDonald points out in her new book, The Armageddon Factor, they are increasingly influential in Harper’s government.

While the federal government uses funding to silence criticism of Israel, one group on the ground also plays a major role in trying to shut down discussion — B’Nai Brith Canada. Once a respected human rights organization, B’Nai Brith now concentrates on trying to stir up fear in the Jewish community. For example, the Israeli newspaper Ha’aretz recently ran a story based on B’Nai Brith information claiming that Montreal’s Orthodox community was “living in fear.” In response, the Quebec Jewish Congress reacted that B’Nai Brith had “limited credibility” in the province, and Montreal Rabbi Reuben Poupko termed the story “a complete and total fabrication of reality.”

Even one-time supporter Jonathan Kay of National Post has written about B’Nai Brith’s “absurd contention that anti-Semitism is a growing epidemic in this tolerant country.” The result, according to Kay: “Older Jews with dark historical memories become terrified, and the donations to B'nai Brith come rolling in."

Last year it was B’Nai Brith who led the charge demanding that Pride ban QuAIA. Problem was, its main spokesperson, Frank Dimant, is straight and keeps some quite homophobic company. Two years ago, he was appointed inaugural chair of the department of modern Israel studies at the Canada Christian College, a fundamentalist training camp run by Charles McVety. McVety is well known for his campaign against same-sex marriage and his close connections with Stephen Harper. So B’Nai Brith didn’t have a lot of cred, and QuAIA marched without incident, a lively contingent of more than 100, wearing trendy kerchiefs and carrying banners in support of Palestinian queers and denouncing the apartheid system that keeps them isolated.

Enter Martin Gladstone, who at least is gay (his website tells us he lives in the upper beach with his partner and their two dogs).

Gladstone, who seems to have done a quick study of basic propaganda techniques, whipped out a video camera and produced his movie. Whenever the QuAIA contingent is shown, menacing music is played. The sound of chants is distorted so that Gladstone can substitute his own version with subtitles, and to mask the cheers heard from the crowds as QuAIA passes by. His film obsesses on a single anti-Nazi T-shirt (showing a crossed out swastika) worn by one marcher, that he has alternately characterized as “Nazi memorabilia” or an accusation that Israel is a Nazi state. (The right-wing media has now distorted that T-shirt into a veritable army of pro-Nazis.) But central to the movie’s strategy are interviews with people who recount how frightened QuAIA made them feel.

One interview, however, unwittingly gives the game away: Justine Apple, ED of Kulanu Toronto, a Jewish LGBT social group, recounts how she received a call from the police Hate Crimes Unit before the parade. “The tension in my heart just increased as soon as I received phone calls from the Toronto police… these people who were holding these anti-Israel messages in the parade suddenly had been built up in everyone’s heads, that it was a serious thing that they might pose a security risk, that there might end up being violence, and that’s why it led to a lot of tension and fear.”

Gladstone, like B’nai Brith, created a threat where one never existed. There were never any problems between QuAIA and Kulanu, and we posed no threat to anybody in the parade. But because of Gladstone, the Jewish social group was terrified, and Pride was forced to waste money for extra police; and then these facts became talking points in his ongoing campaign with the city to cut funding.

Gladstone self-distributed his movie to every city councillor in Toronto and managed to pull together a collection of right-wing city councillors, many of whom were uncomfortable funding Pride in the first place. They are now threatening Pride’s funding unless QuAIA is banned. For them the issue has the added bonus of embarrassing progressives on council who will be characterized as homophobic if they vote to cut funding and anti-Semitic if they don’t. The only thing that nobody can really understand is why Kyle Rae, who as part of the group Gays and Lesbians Against the Right Everywhere (GLARE) helped organize the original 1981 Pride, and who supported QuAIA’s right to march last year, has now associated himself with this motley right-wing crew.

The bullying hasn’t stopped. Last week Gladstone had his lawyers send two QuAIA members a letter (PDF) reserving “all of his legal rights and remedies” unless we cease our “defamation.”  Seems he didn’t like the review of his video that we sent to councillors. Perhaps he should add “thin skinned” and “litigious” to his Facebook profile.

The Christian right and B’Nai Brith must be grinning. Federal funding to Pride has been cut off. City of Toronto is facing a motion to follow suit. Pride, which should have been concentrating on the festival, has been running in circles for months looking for some excuse to ban QuAIA. Last week it decided to ban the words “Israeli Apartheid.” It will spend the weeks running up to Pride fighting off a justifiable community backlash.

Meanwhile, Palestinian queers are waiting to see if their issues will be silenced in Toronto by the likes of Martin Gladstone and Stephen Harper or whether the Toronto community will rally to ensure that Pride continues to represent our community of differences as displayed on the rainbow flag we carry so proudly.


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sue Gladstone for defamation
I don't know why QuAIA isn't suing Gladstone for defamation, libel or whatever. Surely some lawyer would take the case pro bono or at a reduced fee or for a fee paid from the damages awarded or whatever. His video is all the evidence you need, his claims that QuAIA is a hate group are ridiculous and he has caused both QuAIA, the LGBT community in Toronto and Pride much harm. He should be made to pay for doing so. In the process there will be an official court ruling that QuAIA is not a hate group which should stop the censorship against them. Granted QuAIA has benefited greatly from Gladstone's efforts which have done far more to spread QuAIA's message than they ever could have done by themselves, QuAIA is now known not just nationally but internationally too. It would have cost QuAIA hundreds of thousands of dollars to get that sort of publicity Gladstone got for them for free. In that sense QuAIA should be thanking him I guess but I still would like to see him pay for the damage he's done and having him lose a defamation suit would be lovely, hell I'd gladly contribute what little I can afford to a fund to hire a lawyer to sue Gladstone's pants off.
Rich, Toronto Ontario
05/28/10 7:02 PM EST
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At least he has some self-respect
Poor Martin Gladstone. He's incurred the wrath of Xtra and the Gay Left. He will no doubt be attacked in every issue of Xtra from now until Pride. But, at least he has some dignity and self-respect as a gay man: he doesn't march in favour of homophobic Islamist proponents of the Islamic Republic of Palestine who don't believe in gay rights and who want us dead.
Joe, Toronto Ontario
05/28/10 7:43 PM EST
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Don't worry Joe
You can always read the National Post. They've been writing non-stop about this issue ever since it first surfaces from a decidedly right-wing bias. Seems like that would be more to your taste.
Val, Toronto Ontario
05/28/10 8:26 PM EST
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Decide for yourselves
No one is trying to censor legitimate criticism of Israel. There is no doubt that more work needs to be done to afford equal rights to Palestinians. However, comparing Israel to one of the most evil regime in the history of the world is simply absurd. QuAIA's obsession with trying to demonize Israel at every turn is evidenced by its claim that Israel is marketing itself as an "oasis of gay tolerance" in order to "promote hatred of Palestinians, Arabs, and Muslims". Israel has a strong record on gay rights. Why not praise Israel on issues that it deserves praise and criticize it when it deserves to be criticized? It is this is the type of illegitimate singling out of Israel that rightfully gets the Jewish community upset. Canada promotes itself as an great place to be gay. Are we doing it so that we can cover up the way we treat Aboriginals? Of course not. I recommend that everyone watch the video and make up their own minds. You can see a trailer at www.reclaimingourpride.ca and buy a copy at Glad Day.
Daniel, Toronto Ontario
05/28/10 10:28 PM EST
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Why is Extra Publishing This?
Wow Extra - I had no idea you promoted such biased, inflammatory and anti-semitic propaganda. Opinion is not fact. The editor should be ashamed to have this garbage under Xtra's masthead.
Grant, Toronto Ontario
05/28/10 10:38 PM EST
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You must be kidding Dan
Did South Africa ever kill 1,400 people in 3 weeks? Israel did. I think Israel is on my top list of the world´s worst regimes. Do me a favour, why don´t you type Gaza on google images. While you are done with that, how about you type Israeli settler in youtube. I don´t think it is a stretch of the imagination to compare two horrible regimes.
zezi, Toronto ontario
05/28/10 11:05 PM EST
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Not so fast
Daniel's selective quoting of QuAIA's website above seems intentionally misleading. Read the full FAQ at http://queersagainstapartheid.org/faq/. And I have to say that Tim McCaskell's assessment of the "Reclaiming our Pride" video is accurate. The video is blatantly manipulative and propagandistic. I do recommend that readers check it out for themselves on YouTube to see.
Shawn, Toronto ON
05/28/10 11:07 PM EST
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It bears repeating
I think Xtra is missing the mark on this issue. Corporations and governments could care less about what QuAiA has to say or about the plight of people in Israel. Seriously if anyone actually gave a shit we would have our soldiers there right now actually fighting (not Peacekeeping) for one side or the other. The Israeli nonsense is a distraction for the sad fact that Pride has sold out and become nothing more than a money making grab by corporations and the city of Toronto. The funny thing is that political issues don't really sell tickets or cloths or banking packages or cars. So naturally, if a corp. smells a hint of political controversy they will cut funding. It's just business. THAT'S THE PROBLEM PRIDE IS NOW JUST BUSINESS. In all seriousness that breaks my heart. All GLBTQ in Canada should ask themselves if we are willing to give up everything that Pride stands for in exchange for a fun, corporate tourist attraction party? When did corporate and civic funding become important Pride issues anyway? Oh that's right when pride became a cash cow.
ummm..., Barrie Ontario
05/28/10 11:26 PM EST
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The world's worst regime?
Zezi, your characterization of Israel as the world's worst regime is an example of criticism of Israel that stems from, at best, misinformation. There's no point in debating the merits of the Gaza war. I think that Israel certainly can be criticized legitimately for many of its tactics in that war. However, calling Israel the world's worst regime is the type of illegitimate singling out of Israel that many people believe stems from anti-semitism. What about Iran who is bringing the world to the brink of nuclear war? You want to talk censorship then let's talk China. You want to talk apartheid then let's talk gender apartheid in Saudi Arabia. North Korea may as well be out of 1984. And I haven't even not to mentioned the countless middle eastern countries that have the death penalty for homosexuality, the number of African countries where female genital mutilation is routinely performed or all the countries in the world that are not democracies. I could go on and on. Criticize Israel when it deserves to be criticized, but don't single it out in illegitimate ways.
Daniel, Toronto Ontario
05/28/10 11:51 PM EST
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Daniel
I don´t know if Israel is the worst regime, but it is certainly up there and that is what I meant to convey. It is certainly, as far as I can see, pretty close to South Africa. Also, Iran is not bringing the world to the brink of nuclear war anymore than any other power that has nuclear weapons is. It is just making other countries with nuclear weapons nervous. If they attack it with nuclear weapons, they are the ones bringing the world to a nuclear war. I am not misinformed Daniel, I have, and I wish I hadn´t, spent hours and hours researching the situation and Israel´s policies disgust me. I have never seen a government be so hypocritical as to blame everyone around them for everything and never accept responsibility for anything. They claim to want peace, they don´t as it was pretty evident when the possibility of obama being an arbitrer recently was criticized by a number of Israeli politicians. Did you do a search on Gaza on google images Dan? Or are gaza children spendable? A few heads here and there ... ok? Israel has acted criminally for too long. I want someone to put a stop to it. If anyone is misinformed, it is you.
zezi, Toronto Ontario
05/28/10 11:59 PM EST
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If you do one thing
I suggest anyone who has doubts about what Israel has done goes to google images and types "gaza". Go to youtube and time "Israeli settler." You can spend hours and hours researching the situation, but if you don't have that amount of time... you can get an idea of why so many people are upset by just doing that.
zezi, Toronto Ontario
05/29/10 12:02 AM EST
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Gladstone is a real inspiration
His exposure of QAIA is worthy of an international Award. He made the blatant anti-semitism visible and clear.His multi-dimensial activism was successful against a highly organized group . The folks at QAIA might want to look at how gays ( and others) are treated in Malawi, Iran, Somalia, Saudi Arabia and Syria. That would nbe a more productive use of their time
ken, toronto ON
05/29/10 12:27 AM EST
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discussion?
"a concerted attempt across the country to shut down any discussion of what is going on in" Problem is, Pride cannot be a forum for discussion. Protest, yes. But discussion? Like Dan says, we need discussion. The false branding of Israel as an apartheid state is not discussion. Besides, nothing is being shut down, it just doesn't belong in the Pride parade.
BJ, Hamilton on
05/29/10 12:45 AM EST
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Read the letter, Tim
QuAIA accuses Gladstone of doctoring the film. That's not just low, it's defamation. It has nothing to do with thin skin. You should be retracting the accusation, and apologizing.
BJ, Hamilton ON
05/29/10 12:58 AM EST
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Both sides.
Ok, great Tim. And thanks Xtra. Now publish a letter from Gladstone so we can get his side of the story.
Karl, Toronto ON
05/29/10 2:26 AM EST
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To Daniel
You wrote, "No one is trying to censor legitimate criticism of Israel." I would like to know the difference between legitimate and illegitimate criticism of Israel. Who determines what is legitimate? B'nai Brith? The Harper regime? Give me an example of legitimate criticism.
Skinny Dipper, Toronto Ontario
05/29/10 7:24 AM EST
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Deep feelings of entitlement on both sides
I think there is sense on the part of some (like Gladstone & his followers) that they should be entitled to defend the indefensible (from a Cdn context) and certain policies and activities of a third country (Israel). And they treat it as if attacking certain Israeli government policies is attacking certain Canadians or even an entire race of people. Hogwash! The word "A" is obviously emotive but hardly a comment on Canadians or the Jewish people or even all Israelis. Almost all of the gay activists reacting against PT like Tim Mc here- are defending important gay historical facts of offically snactioned gay prejudice over decades--but within Canada not in a third country. This whole thing cannot end well with these deep feelings of entitlement on both sides--some more realistic & justified in a Tor/Cdn context than others. Commenting on certain policies in Israel is not anti-semitic nor meant to be. I doubt whether the 2 words--"I A" are banned in the (mostly) democratic state of Israel. So why in Toronto? and why by the Pride Board & for Pride Day? Even the misinformed Ontario motion on this subject is not a law--just a "sense" of the Ontario Legislature. They didn't ban anything--just commented on it without the force of law. So why did Pride T go that additional fatal step? It is divisive and wrong, wrong, wrong. Let's have heated debates on the subject of Israeli policies but not political censorship by our own community in our annual Pride Day which is usually both an exuberant celebration and profound memory of our history and where our gay activism has got us to (and how) in the past few decades. Shame on the 4 Directors of Pride who voted for unnecessary censorship within our community and for rather flimsy reasons. I am moved and inspired by Dr Alan Li's courageous statement declining the honor of being Grand Marshall and by the impassioned statement of the very distingui
james dubro, toronto ontario
05/29/10 8:58 AM EST
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correction and end of my note (above)
that should obviously be "officially sanctioned anti- gay" prejudice (above-not "gay prejudice") . and the end of my note got cut off: [I am inspired by Dr Alan Li and by] "the very distinguished founding Board of Pride commenting on the reactionary, unprecedented censorship by the current Pride Board."
james dubro, toronto ontario
05/29/10 9:17 AM EST
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The conflict is complex
Zezi, you make it seem like things are so simple. You make it seem like all that has to happen is that Israel needs to open its borders, lay down its arms, and everything will be just dandy. You make it seem like the plight of the Palestinian people is entirely the fault of the Israeli government and its policies. But you're forgetting that the Palestinian people were oppressed long before 1967. You're forgetting that the P.A. leadership (Arafat specifically) misappropriated millions of dollars of aid money that was supposed to go to his people. You're forgetting that in 1947 Israel was willing to give the Palestinians far more land than they have now under the "Partition Plan" but the Arab countries said 'no, we're going to throw the Jews into the sea'. You're forgetting that Hamas does not want to live side by side with Israel in peace - it wants to destroy Israel. You're forgetting that Hamas intentionally shoots rockets from densely populated civilian areas. It's very easy to make things seem simple on either side. Skinny Dipper, you ask what is legitimate criticism; legitimate criticism is criticism that acknowledges both sides of the equation and acknowledges the complexities of the conflict, rather than throwing around inflammatory terms that are clearly erroneous and foster acrimony rather than discussion.
Daniel, Toronto Ontario
05/29/10 10:34 AM EST
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Martin Gladstone is helping homophobes
It's fine if anyone doesn't like what QAIA has to say. It's even fine if someone wants to have a discussion in the gay community about how they disagree with QAIA, and I'm sure there would be plenty of people wanting to have that debate. But Martin Gladstone has decided not to have that debate in our community, and instead go over our heads to homophobic politicians to attack funding for Pride. He even alerted the homophobic National Post, a newspaper that doesn't believe ANY gay organizations should get public funding. He is giving homophobes an excuse to attack our community. It looks like he has more of an allegiance to defending the Israeli government at all costs than our own community.
Paul, Toronto ON
05/29/10 11:34 AM EST
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Nice Smear Job
I can't believe Xtra allowed this editorial to be published. Very poor taste. The last paragraph is my favorite, 'Palestinian queers are waiting to see if their issues will be silenced in Toronto..' HAHA Wow, bullshit at its best. Something tells me Palestinian queers aren't sitting around giving this much thought at all. As for the Martin Gladstone smear piece, it only shows that Xtra is just as guilty as Pride in having only a limited regard for diversity in our community.
Ryan, Toronto ON
05/29/10 11:44 AM EST
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maybe it is too complex for you Dan
The conflict might be complex for you Dan, but I have spent way more time going through information than most people and I cannot justify in any way the actions of the Israeli government and the settlers. If you can´t understand it, too bad for you, but this isn´t about survival, it is about stealing land and resources and racism. If I was Israeli I would understand why there is so much hatred towards my people given that my government keeps on stealing land and the casualties of this stealing land have always been the palestinians. Sorry that you can´t stand up to the challenge Dan, but Israel has had too much time to solve this problem in an equitable way and it has failed. What it did in Gaza is not complex, it is criminal and disgusting and showed a total disregard for human life. Did the spanish bomb the basque over a kidnapping... let me see... NO. Reasonable countries do not act like that Dan. You might not know what it is like to live facing terrorism, but I do. So if it shocks you, and you just think it is complicated, you don´t understand it. Now, if Israel was willing to talk to Hamas, perhaps they could find a common ground, but it refuses to even though Hamas is willing to partake in peace negotiations. I don´t support Hamas but what kind of idiots say they wan´t peace but won´t speak to their enemies? The settlements are constant violence towards the palestinians. The check points, the nice people of Hebron who spend their entire day harrassing palestinians and throwing rocks at them. Lebanon. The issue isn´t complicated. Israel doesn´t really want peace if it means that it won´t get more land and more resources.
zezi, Toronto Ontario
05/29/10 11:56 AM EST
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Cash Cow
"ummmmm" in Barrie made a good point that was pretty well ignored. If PT is going to seek out corporate and govt sponsorship then they have to expect that there will be strings attacked to the money and that someone, sooner or later, will pull on the string. Regardless of how you feel about QuAIA or Martin Gladstone, all of this has come about because of the money. Gove back the money and do whatever you like.... or does PT feel that they have an "entitlement" to the cash?
Robert, Toronto Ontario
05/29/10 12:16 PM EST
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QuAIA censors too.
An old fab magazine article reveals the QuAIA attempting to censor a legitimate and inclusive queer event at Buddies in Bad Times theatre - http://www.fabmagazine.com/features/343/gaza.html
Karl, Newmarket ON
05/29/10 12:16 PM EST
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I disagree with what QaIA did then Karl, but...
It doesnt change the fact that QaIA has a legitimate voice in the community that the have every right to be heard. I would stand against them seeking the cancellation of a variety show whose name is frankly ridiculous, given the circumstances, just like I stand up against them being censored in our Pride Parade.
zezi, Toronto Ontario
05/29/10 1:02 PM EST
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One sided again
Thanks for proving my point Zezi. You completely ignored the role that the Palestinian authorities have played in the conflict dating back to well before Israel had control over the West Bank and Gaza. Blame Israel if it makes you feel better. But that type of one sided rhetoric is a barrier to peace.
Daniel, Toronto Ontario
05/29/10 1:02 PM EST
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McCaskell Fabricates
Whatever truths Xtra readers might find in McCaskell's piece are clearly obscured by his blatant journalistic failure to produce an opinion free of assumption. When he writes that the Harper Government ". . . harassed the president of the human rights group Rights and Democracy [Rémy Beauregard]" who ". . . finally died of a heart attack," McCaskell exposes himself as one who is as manipulative as the government he criticizes. There is no evidence that M. Beauregard died as a result of the Harper Government's harassment. This is gutter journalism at its worst and deserves no place in Xtra. Readers should receive an apology and a retraction from McCaskell, as well as a promise from the editors that such yellow journalism will be banned from Xtra henceforth.
Victor, Vancouver BC
05/29/10 3:19 PM EST
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what would you do Daniel
If a bunch of new immigrants wanted to separate from your country and take your houses with it? The issue is complicated and to say they didn't want what we offered them, when what Israel has always offered has always come up short of just, is ridiculous. The palestinians can no longer get their houses back, but until Israel gets back to its 1967 borders it has nothing to complain about. The peace plan they have offered the palestinians is just disgusting prohibiting them from even access to their underground water and chopping up their entire territory to continue to have israeli settlements everywhere. That is how little Israel wants peace. There is nothing complicated about that. When Israel gets back to its 1967 and stops completely interfering with the lives of palestinians, then we can talk. Israel is so bad that they agree to a ceasefire with Hamas that is supposed to include and end to the blockade, Gaza rockets virtually stop, but Israel does not do what it agreed to do. How can anyone do business like that? What kind of a partner for peace is Israel. If Hamas can almost completely put a hold on the various groups that are attacking Israel within Gaza, then why didn't Israel do what it said it would do? How can it not even stop settlement activity? It seems that Israel is even worse than Hamas at wanting peace. Doesn't it? Israel has all the power here. It could have peace if it really wanted it.
zezi, Toronto Ontario
05/29/10 3:34 PM EST
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politically deluded
I think the writer is a bit detached from the reality of Palestine. How else could he write a sentence like this: "Meanwhile, Palestinian queers are waiting to see if their issues will be silenced in Toronto by the likes of Martin Gladstone and Stephen Harper or whether the Toronto community will rally to ensure that Pride continues to represent our community of differences as displayed on the rainbow flag we carry so proudly." QuAIA is just using the Palestnans to serve its own ideological ends. Makes you feel sad for Palestinians (queers and straight) that this is the sort of group that advocates for them. I suspect we'll soon read a National Post report about Palestinians reacting to Queers Against Israeli Apartheid. It will likely include quotes from the most homophobic Palestinians the Post can find.
Emoticon, toronto ontario
05/29/10 5:40 PM EST
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Manipulation, thy name is ...McCaskell
People should know that 30 years ago...long before any of the Intifadas, long before Lebanon or Gaza, but NOT before three wars against Israel and the butchery by Palestinians of Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics (a war crime if there ever was one...), the writer of this article lived in a house with a poster of a Jewish star and a gun-sight aimed at it...Solidarity with the Palestinian People written underneath. The idea of the total destruction of Israel was pretty clear then...but Tim has learned a lot about obfuscation of his message in the years since. So don't be fooled by any babble about apartheid; McCaskell has hated Israel for long before their policies got so objectionable. And you will NEVER hear him discussing the doubtful policies of Hamas or Hezbollah (read Hamas' Charter...it specifically says that any Jew - not just any Israeli, but ANY JEW ANYWHERE - is an acceptable target for assassination! But Tim will not EVER mention the rabid anti-Semitism of some of the people he is supporting. More important, Tim has been a Marxist militant for most of his life, and is an EXPERT at manipulation; the very choice of the name QIAI shows that, and don't be fooled either by the pretense that Gay Pride was always about all kinds of politics... it has specifically been about politics which create problems for gays. QIAI's agenda has NOTHING to do with gays, except to support the very people who would harm gays if they could. And finally, as a member of that household so long ago... I was basically asked to leave, mainly because I didn't toe the party line; so any bullshit about censorship at Pride...permit me to laugh. One thing however IS clear: before QIAI there were both Jews and Muslims at Pride, NO tensions, everyone had a good time, and the entire good feeling of Pride ONLY changed with the arrival of QIAI. Why should Toronto let these opportunists USURP Pride for their own agenda that has NOTHING to do with gays? Total absurdity.
Ken, Paris France
05/29/10 7:19 PM EST
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Sore Loser
Mr. McCaskell sounds like nothing more than a bitter sore loser for having his true colours exposed: Namely that he's an anti-Semite. To say that Martin Gladstone is cozy with Steven Harper is nothing short of absurd. The general gay population in this city is aware that the QuAIA is comprised of hard-left whack jobs who need a good dose of group therapy. Shame on X-Tra for publishing this nonsense. Just proves all the more that X-Tra is in bed with the QuAIA.
The Anti-Elle Flanders, Toronto Ontario
05/29/10 7:54 PM EST
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the question is how you won
You say "sore losers" without noting that your side only won because it blackmailed Pride Toronto is funny. I don´t know who you are, or if you are even queer, but Martin Gladstone and company have not yet won anything except they have destroyed the one holiday we as a people have. Now we are a divided community. I suppose to win would be to repress the message, but you have won QuAIA hundreds of supporters. Thank you. I have been waiting years for this to happen. And, Pride is still to come, so you just wait to see what happens. I think you and Martin Gladstone, hell, all of you, are losing this battle because everyone knows about QuAIA now and if they didn´t care about the middle east, either they now care, or they care about censorship and are willing to spread the message. You can claim all the victories you want... but it has been QuAIA victory.
zezi, Toronto Ontario
05/29/10 8:10 PM EST
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Divided we march, again
Zezi, the "community" has always been divided and always will be. This is not such a big deal except to a handful of karaoke activists. QuAIA may have had some success in rebranding itself as a Victim of Censorship, but what exactly has it ever accomplished? This is just politics at the level of slogans and t-shirts, very childish. Anyone looking for genuine political solutions avoids the loud mouths and posers. Hope to see you at Pride (I'll be wearing blue and cruising Starbucks).
Emoticon, toronto ontario
05/29/10 8:33 PM EST
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This is propoganda
I find it amazing that the queer community, who are constantly reminding everyone what bigots they are, have no shame in targeting a country like Israel. If QuAIA want to spew their hateful lies, let them do it on their own dime. Or let the Muslim Brotherhood pay for it. One has to wonder what kind of amoral society can produce such people who believe they are entitled to be protected from others' bigotry, spew their own based on total fallacies, and have the taxpayer foot the bill.
Gideon, Toronto Ontario
05/29/10 9:03 PM EST
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Zezi and Xtra
Zezi just go to Gaza if you really care about the Middle East and have your anti Israel rally there. Zezi we are all Queer here I really starting to think that you are not since you attack everyone you don't agree with with your hate . Also tell us and I asked this Question many many many times and no answer even if you think that you have given me one but you or anyone hasn't. How do Middle Eastern Wars have anything to do with Gay Rights in Canada? Also please share your plans for Pride since we don't like censorship( or maybe the National Post or the Star might tell us since Xtra seems to be in bed with the QuAIA and a right wing newspaper did give a clear balance coverage to this issue), and tell us since you don't like censorship and why were QuAIA members protesting the Gaza Strip Club? was it something you did not like? funny you people will scream censorship when applied to you but when you don't like something you have no problem in censoring it yourselves. But I guess Martian Gladstone did beat you at your own game and I guess for once you got a taste of your own medicine and of course you did not like it but everyone else love it and yes Zezi that it a victory, the people have spoken and they rejected it and this makes it a truly democratic Victory in our community. Again its the QuAIA vs the People and the People won and that what makes democracy sweet and Zezi don't like it then go to Gaza, I think Hamas will welcome your one sided world view and you might want to tell them your Queer. Also Shame on Xrta for not giving balance coverage it clearly shows who you are in bed with and making us go to the National Post or the Star or the Sun newspapers . WTF Xtra Why can't you give us balance coverage from both sides of this issue? and forced us to get balance coverage from National Post the Star or the Sun? Shame on Xtra
Peter from, Toronto ON
05/29/10 9:04 PM EST
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Leave our pride alone!
All gay people whether you want to destroy the Jewish state or not, must unite against this group who want to take our pride parade and turn it into something else! March against the jews on another day. LEAVE PRIDE FOR GAY PEOPLE! and why is Extra backing that hate group anyway!?
queer boy, Toronto ont
05/29/10 11:53 PM EST
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queer boy
The group doesn´t want to destroy the Jewish state queer boy. In fact, most of them are jewish and some of them hold pasports from the jewish state. If anyone came in and destroyed our parade it was Martin Gladstone. Our parades have always been political, what makes this different? Nothing. That little man has destroyed the unity among us a people during basically the only holiday we have every year. As it is, and I am really sorry for the organizer, because I actually really like her, the Dyke March is going to be desolate this year.... and what else? No Gran Marsharl? When Tracey Sandilands decided those 100 people outside didn´t represent the community, she was so wrong. Stop falsely accusing QuAIA ... the entire blame lies with the pro-Israel group.
zezi, Toronto Ontario
05/30/10 2:06 AM EST
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Xtra Sleazy
this previous comment makes clear the consequences of xtra scapegoating an individual. the headline turned Mr Gladstone into a target. I disagree completely with his position but what he has done has resonated with a lot of people. It is unfair to turn this discussion into a personal attack on him. This sort of journalism violates the principles on which the gay rights movement is based. Xtra! does not represent my values because it has none.
Celine Dion, Las Vegas Nevada
05/30/10 3:07 AM EST
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Picking sides
it seems so much easier for people to criticise Israel rather than the suicide bombers from which Israel must sometimes take drastic and extreme measures to defend itself against.
kv, toronto Ontario
05/30/10 4:02 AM EST
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Walk with Israel
I'll be interested to see the evening news tonight to see if QAIA, Elle Flanders, Tim Mcasshat, Brad, Zezi and the motley crew of Israeli Apartheiders will be shouting down the walkers. If they don't protest this even, it's clear QAIA's goal is to disrupt Pride only.
Parker, Toronto Ontario
05/30/10 12:05 PM EST
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Gladstone's video propaganda
Gladstone's video is full of lies and distortions and illogical leaps of the imagination. He lied about QuAIA's chant, he showed video from other demonstrations in other cities that had nothing to do with QuAIA and he twisted the meaning of an anti-nazi t-shirt to make it seem pro-nazi, anti-Jewish. When I had originally seen the video I had thought no one was going to buy this garbage, surely they'll see right through it but nope, many fell for Gladstone's propaganda piece hook line and sinker. I was disgusted too by how willing the pro-censorship side was willing to use their threats of violence against QuAIA as justification to have them banned, last year we saw small scale violence against QuAIA, this year we were told to expect much more if QuAIA was allowed to participate. In a just world those using the threats of violence would have to pay a price and not those who the violence was directed against like has happened to QuAIA. But on the bright side for QuAIA I guess their message has reached far more people than it ever would have if Gladstone had left well enough alone and the Israel lobby has been exposed as the thugs and bullies they are losing much credibility and respect among those whose capable of independent thought. The smear campaign lead by Gladstone against QuAIA worked much to the shame of those who refused to critically examine QuAIA for themselves to see if the claim they're a hate group was true. Initially when I heard the reports there was a hate group marching in last year's parade I believed it, until I started to look at QuAIA for myself and realized how I had been manipulated and lied to by Gladstone and his ilk. I honestly believe Gladstone should be sued for defamation by QuAIA if for no other reason than to clear their name from the charges he has leveled against them, they would win since anyone taking an unbiased appraisal of QuAIA would realize they're a HR group and not a hate group.
Rich, Toronto Ontario
05/30/10 12:28 PM EST
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re: Walk With Israel
Parker, you have a strange impression of QuAIA and its goals. The Coalition Against Israeli Apartheid, (including a number of members from QuAIA), among other protesters, has been at Princess Gates since 9 this morning protesting Mr. Netanyahu's arrival in Canada, and will protest at the walk as well. Why would you think that QuAIA's goal (or even one of its many goals) would be to 'disrupt Pride only'? Currently, Pride Toronto is only disrupting itself. http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/816504--supporters-protests-greet-israeli-pm-in-toronto?bn=1 It's also worth noting that a United Church minister told rally protesting Netanyahu that the Pride Toronto committee has had a "moral collapse" by censoring QuAIA. http://twitter.com/quaiaTO/status/15044025459
David, Toronto Ontario
05/30/10 3:14 PM EST
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Reposting
Thanks to Tim and Xtra for this article. It really puts this whole PRIDE debacle into context for me. I didn't realise the connection between Martin Gladstone and the Christian-right. Will repost to friends :)
Jay, Toronto Ontario
05/30/10 6:24 PM EST
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enough already
Really... do we have to bring politics into this party? Isn't it about celebrating being gay and being open and being accepted ? Last time I checked the Israelis don't hate queers. Then again I stopped going to Pride when it became too politically correct.. the lesbian, gay, transgendered, bisexual, gays with small dogs, people who are gay in Wheelchairs, lesbians who hate Birkenstocks party. I mean really.. lets just call it Gay Pride.. make it a party and stop the rest of the crap that goes on. We aren't fighting for many more rights here in Canada and the population as a whole pretty much accepts us ( I do say pretty much ) This is 2010 and not 1982. Times they are a changing. Keep the politics out of it...
John Hryniuk, Toronto Ont
05/30/10 9:08 PM EST
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Froth and spittle
QuAIA seems largely comprised of people whose approach to the Israel-Palestine conflict is "hmmm...you know what this debate needs? What it sorely lacks? Some more acrimony! We can help with that...here, Pride, here's some bellicose rhetoric to help clarify things!" That's my impression, which is hardened when I come on here and read someone like Daniel who seems like the epitome of Canadian reasonableness (oh, I know, reasonable by what standard, right?) and moderation and is attacked for it. Since the question has arisen, fair and reasonable criticism of Israel would look much like reasonable and fair criticism of anything. It would, as Daniel said, castigate them for mistakes and war crimes while giving them credit for things they've done well. It would provide a context for each sides position. It would assume that people of good will disagree without demonizing an entire nation/state/identity etc. Same for the Palestinians, etc. If Zezi and others want to have a snarky bitch session about what 'fair and reasonable' means, leave them to their own party, Daniel. They are frothing at the mouth, these people, and nothing one says will be honestly listened to and responded to with anything other than rabid cant. They remind me of those crazy Jewish settler people screaming and yelling when the army comes to knock down the settlements in keeping with peace talk agreements for which they care nothing - frothing, hateful, devoid of respect for other points of view. They are virtually indistinguishable from each other. That should tell you something, Zezi. From outside, you're hard to tell apart. I don't know what to think other than the extremists of both sides are untrustworthy and insane.
Halil, Lachine PQ
05/31/10 12:26 AM EST
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Not the issue, McCaskell
So, in order to contribute to a debate, one must be a 'name'? Elitist, no? By your own admission, Tim, Kyle Rae -- who is a name -- has been a less than stellar participant in this shoddy little political opera. I don't much care who Gladstone knows, whether he chews wang or has a dog or even if he's a shitty film maker. The point is that there are a large number of people who have concerns about Pride, and this is one of them. It isn't - and I wish QuAIA would stop saying this - limited to the "Israel lobby" - a good many of us aren't part of that lobby, aren't Israeli, aren't anti-Semitic or Islamophobic or racist, we just don't understand the supersized demonization of the only state in the region where Pride actually happens and where you can enjoy some semblance of a liberal democracy with gay rights. I acknowledge this is a very flawed state with a lot to answer for, including war crimes (Ditto the P.A.) But there are lots of those - including the US, Malawi, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi and on it goes. We try to understand and ask questions or pose problems and we get yelled at hysterically, called sweater fags or yuppie scum or whatever. Not really helpful. Gladstone may not be anyone of importance, but the issues he has raised have bothered many of us for some time. I saw the Hezbollah insignia at the Netanyahu protest today. Was QuAIA there? Smash the Israeli state? Anyway thanks for ruining Pride assholes. Have fun holding the first Pride in Ramallah. Let us know how it feels to be strung up by piano wire or having your nutsac cut off by haters.
Faggoty Gay Homo, Toronto ON
05/31/10 2:14 AM EST
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Universal language of the anti israel bigots
Some really good points by Halil. My little irritant now is the bias Xtra has in favour of the QuAIA neo-nazis. They aren't neonazis, you say. That's strange. They see only one side of the issue, are hysterical fanatics, and they sound like nazis when they talk about Israel and the "Zionist lobby." Xtra might want to give some time to the other side rather than so blantantly siding with the fanatics.
Bones, Toronto Ontario
05/31/10 9:19 AM EST
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Neo-nazis? Really?
Wow Bones, great smear. By the same metric, B'Nai Brith and Martin Gladstone are also a bunch of neo-nazis - they see only one side of the issue, are hysterically fanatic about having QuAIA banned, and ACT "like nazis" by silencing any criticism about the Israeli state. The key difference here is that while QuAIA wants to opportunity to have their voice heard (and meet the necessary requirements for being part of the Pride Parade), the B'nai Briths and Martin Gladstones of the world are ACTIVELY CAMPAIGNING TO CENSOR THEM. So really, who's the villain here: a group expressing an unpopular opinion, or a group of CENSORS lobbying to remove their rights?
Dan, Toronto ON
05/31/10 10:15 AM EST
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Neo-Nazis LOVE QuAIA
Looks like QuAIA's new best friend is Canadian neo-Nazi Paul Fromm and his supporters. Tiny minds think alike. See for yourself http://www.whitenewsnow.com/forums/paul-fromms-cafe/7201-frowns-over-gay-pride-toronto.html
Bones, Toronto Ontario
05/31/10 11:19 AM EST
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So
...I suspect Martin Gladstone is in the process of receiving some sort of cushy appointment of some kind of either a good paying gig, or some sort of fancy position with all expenses paid. This is what usually follows such political activities of one person...my experience and observations over the years informs me it is NEVER about the issue but ALWAYS about enhancing oneself in some capacity.
jake, toronto on
05/31/10 12:57 PM EST
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So, now the whole world is seeing...
...that Israel is a rogue and terrorist state -- in addition to being an apartheid state: http://tinyurl.com/2u9nwg8
Rick, London Ontario
05/31/10 10:42 PM EST
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Thanks Xtra!
Thank you Xtra for posting this very informative article. I feel like I have a better understanding of this issue and I know things that mainstream media would never share with us. While there have been some pretty disturbing posts in response to this article, I will just say that PRIDE has always been political and needs to remain so. We should not be censoring groups, unless they promote hate speech, which QAIA does not do (unless you are someone lik Mr. Gladstone and doctor images to make it seem like they do). Also, we must ALWAYS have the right to criticize states or governments, whether it be the Canadian, or Isreali, or Iran, or whomever. Critizing state policies and practices DOES NOT equal racism or anti-semitism. If I critize Israeli policy, I do not do so because I think Jewish people are inferior or 'dangerous'. I do so because Israeli state policies and practices are horrible and are killing people. Yes, I can also critize Hamas or other governments or political parties... but this does not take away from who has the most power and should be accountable to the power they hold. Ultimately, I don't care under what circumstances, but building walls and depriving entire groups of human beings because of a particular characteristic (i.e skin colour, 'race', religious beliefs, etc) or because of they are considered a 'security threat'. This is NEVER acceptable, because it stereotypes an entire group of people as being 'dangerous', and the de-humanizes ALL of them. Not all Palestinians are 'suicide bombers' and not all Israelis agree with Israeli state policies and practices. Practices of separation, internment, reservation and apartheid are never acceptable, whether that is in Canada (with Indigenous people, Japanese-Canadians during WWII), across Europe (with Jewish people being placed in ghettos across Europe during WWII era), in South Africa (apartheid with black people) or in Israel-Palestine (with Palestinians).
ed, Montreal Quebec
05/31/10 11:47 PM EST
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wow
I’ve just spent a good two and a half hours reading the article, almost all the comments posted after, checking out youtube, and some other suggested links... and wow. There is so much hate and anger and a lot of frustration – that based out of lack of understanding and and seeing beyond one’s self. It’s extremely difficult for individuals to look beyond their own perspectives, knowledge and personal experiences; however we when it comes to issues as such, going back to the basics is always helpful. I think it should be easily understood that sides cannot be easily taken here without some historical information. There is a strong history of violence between Israel and Palestine (look it up)… what I think should be taken into consideration when making a decision is the current state of affairs as it stands today… However, having said all that, violent acts against humanity is irrevocable wrong! and for those who think that politics has no place at TP, I ask them to think about all the struggles that queers have had getting TP to where it is today. Politics had a huge part to play and still does today. the struggle still continues… and that until the world is free of violence, hate, racism and discriminations of all kinds, politics will always have a place…
lune, hammer ON
06/01/10 1:00 AM EST
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Going public on the Internet
QuAIA supporters have formed a group called The Pride Coalition for Free Speech. They are having a meeting on June 7 and have a page on Facebook. If you logon Facebook, you can see all the Confirmed Guests and all the Invitees. On this issue, I think the absence of privacy on Facebook is problematic. QuAIA spokespersons like Elle Flanders and Tim McKaskell have already gone public. But other people who support QuAIA may not want to go public on the Internet.
Doug, Toronto Ontario
06/01/10 5:48 AM EST
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Thank you.
Thank you for publishing this article. I've also sent a letter to the editor of the National Post asking them to qualify Martin Gladstone's declaration of being a gay rights activist.
J Roman, Toronto ON
06/01/10 9:48 AM EST
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Thanks to the controversy
I first heard about this kerfuffle last year and Googled "Reclaiming our Pride" and "Martin Gladstone". Over the past 12 months I've been mulling all of this over. What once seemed extreme and kinda inflammatory (calling Israel an Apartheid state) now seems very accurate and reasonable to me. ... I now count myself as a supporter of QuAIA. Thanks Martin Gladstone!!!
Jenn Farr, Ottawa Ontario
06/03/10 11:12 AM EST
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Why isnt anyone standing up for me
As an Israeli, I cannot enter 20 Muslim countries. As a homosexual I cannot visit these countries. Why are these angry people turning their anger at Israel alone????
matan, toronto ontario
06/18/10 5:15 PM EST
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