Increased cop patrols for Vancouver's gay village during the Olympics
OLYMPICS / Making the case for greater post-Games police presence requires more research: deHaas
Natasha Barsotti / Vancouver / Monday, January 18, 2010
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MAKING THE CASE. More data about 'times and occurrences and circumstances' of attacks on gay people are needed to justify more beat cops, says VPD's Insp John deHaas when asked if there'll be a more visible post-Games police presence in the West End.
(Natasha Barsotti)
There'll be a heightened police presence in the West End during the Olympics to safeguard the queer community against potential homophobic incidents, says Insp John deHaas of the Vancouver Police Department (VPD).

DeHaas and the VPD's Deputy Chief Const Steve Sweeney gave that assurance to members of the city's LGBTQ advisory committee at a Jan 5 meeting to discuss the queer community's concerns about safety during the Games.

"We thought nobody has really had a chat with the VPD regarding safety for the queer community when [the Olympics] happens," says Ron Stipp, a member of the queer advisory committee, who attended the meeting with fellow committee members Drew Dennis, Steven RodRozen and Jim Deva.

"There's going to be a lot of people coming into town, and we just wanted to make sure that they had taken our needs into account," Stipp adds.

He says the committee asked deHaas and Sweeney how police would deal with homophobic incidents if they occurred, particularly if it involved Olympic visitors.

"The police assured us that they would deal with it in a really progressive way and also communicate with people in the community, like myself and Jim Deva, so we could help with the situation as it happens," Stipp says.

"We don't want this escalating into a ridiculous thing."

DeHaas says the committee reminded him and Sweeney that many people would be coming from "areas of the world where policy or law is homophobic."

"[VPD officers] need to be aware that perhaps someone will come from a part of the world where the openness which we have in our society is foreign to them, and they may behave in a way that's not acceptable here," deHaas points out.

He says the plan is to ensure that Vancouver police are "sensitive to what could transpire," and communicate Canadian values of acceptance.

DeHaas says it was good to have that reminder from the committee because we "keep thinking a little bit too locally."

He says the advisory committee members also raised concerns about spillover from the Granville entertainment district during the Olympic period, especially in the evenings.

"The Deputy [Sweeney] just conveyed that there will be more police presence on the ground," deHaas says.

"I don't know the specific numbers," he admits, "but we're fielding a heck of a lot more personnel out on to the streets — on foot and in cars citywide — particularly in those areas where we expect people to congregate, so downtown for sure, and on the Eastside," he elaborates.

"[The police] really wanted to keep us a part of the overall plan of safety in the city," adds Stipp, confirming that Sweeney and deHaas assured there would be "a real presence and people would notice it."

"They'll be part of the community, which is something I've been advocating for, for years," adds Stipp, who is also co-founder of West Enders Against Violence Everywhere (WEAVE).

Stipp, who described the  one-hour-plus meeting with police as "really positive," says he also asked whether there'd be a more visible beat cop presence in the West End once the Olympics are over.

"I did raise this with deHaas and I said, 'You know we've been asking for this for years.'

"And he acknowledged that," Stipp says.

"He said this was just for the Olympics, and of course the communication is always open," Stipp adds.

Stipp says he will continue to push for a more visible police presence once the Games end.

"Personally, I think it's a great idea," deHaas agrees.

"I think everybody agrees it would be good to have those officers out there," he adds.

It really comes down to cost and the myriad demands being placed on the VPD, deHaas indicates.

"There's a lot of different communities that have needs," he points out.

"I think it's tearing between all the other demands on the department and dollars availability, and would that be the best use of those [police officers] overall," deHaas adds.

He believes there's improved reporting of bashings and says it's important for people to continue reporting such incidents.

DeHaas says he's awaiting results of a survey done on Sunset Beach after the Pride parade last year that may provide answers to questions about the rate of under-reporting.

"You need something to say, 'Look, it's really important we deploy those resources,'" he emphasizes.

"I think we're still scrambling a bit. It comes down to we need some solid information, which isn't sitting in our police records," he admits.

That information has to come from research, deHaas says.

“If we find out a bit more about times and occurrences and circumstances, then we can say clearly that strategy of putting police officers on the ground at [a particular] location during these times is very important — a business case, if you will,” he concludes.


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Reader Comments


 
I agree - more research.
I'm just wondering if there was an increase in crimes against gay people in Athens, Sydney, Atlanta or Torino that could give credence to the request for more police. Without proof of increases happening in other locations ... what is it really based on? Xenophobia. If there is proof of increased crimes against the community "by people from other parts of the world where openess... is foreign to them" then lets see the numbers. It's pretty clear that with all the bashings and a Toronto murder the more tangible threat is within Canada.
F. Romain, Toronto ON
01/20/10 9:11 AM EST
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No more research needed on this one
Increased policing in the West End has very little or nothing to do with crimes against gays during the Olympics. It has everything to do with an increase threat of terrorism. Most every part of the region will have an increased police (and milatery) presence for the duration of the Olympic Games. Once again it's another example of some gays thinking it's all about them and not being able to see past their own noses. of course with any event with the size and scope of an Olympics, there is an increase in population in that region. With a sharp increase in population, it only stands to reason that incidents of crime will increase. It's much like when people say that the US had much more crime tham Canada. Of course they have much more crime because they have 268 million more people living in their country. Here's another example. The more people you have in a room, the more gay people will be in that room. I know, kinda simple and silly of an example, but sometimes you have to dumb things down to reach some people.
Jeff Taylor, Toronto Ontario
01/20/10 12:04 PM EST
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Whoops ....
I meant 'military' - lol. That's what happens when you hurry things and forget to proof read your comments before you click 'submit' !
Jeff Taylor, Toronto Ontario
01/20/10 12:13 PM EST
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oh Jeff
Dumbing things down for yourself?
Ted Burni, Vancouver BC
01/20/10 2:36 PM EST
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more cops=more violence by cops.
I already feel safe"not"
weldon, vanoucer bc
01/20/10 4:05 PM EST
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BEWARE
This should be an interesting time with an interesting show of force. Saw transit cops "take out" 2 people a couple of weeks ago over a $2.50 fare. Should be killer over a 5 dollar beer.
KT, VANCOUVER BC
01/20/10 6:28 PM EST
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More police are good!
Get over yourselves Weldon and KT. More police are a good thing. God forbid they use...."violence" to subdue some drunken foreigner who is trying stab them or one of the local GLBTQ people. Instaed, when they see a queer getting bashed, the police should go up and gently request that the bashers "please stop" and respect Canadian values...well I'm sorry to say to all of the aged old "radical" queens but this isn't an afterschool special where we can talk about our feelings and resolve conflicts by respecting diversity. It's the real world and a show of force is necessary to tell ANYONE who may cause trouble that it will not be tolerated. If a trouble-maker tries to test that then any violence that the police bring down on that person is the trouble makers own fault because they should have known better than to disrespect authority and Canadian law. Which protects gay people by the way...
Gay man, Toronto Ontario
01/22/10 9:46 AM EST
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police bring shame to our communities.
Police bring shame to our communities. How can the police really deal with homophobic incidents while queer people still face homophobia and violence by the cops? Cops are not known for dealing with things in a progressive way. They say that they are "sensitive to what could transpire," and "communicate Canadian values of acceptance". What a bunch of BS. Queer social justice activists have been harassed by the Olympics security unit. There is no such thing as freedom of speech or freedom of association in this province. Bud Mercer and Sweeney don't have a good record when it comes to the public and protesters. But the one thing they are good at is manipulating the public and dumbing us down, but not all of us fall into that trap, that's why the ones that speak out get more abuse from the cops. Their behaviour tells us that everyone else is the problem, and that they're right no matter how wrong they might be. Cops protect cops, the courts protect cops. What about the rest of us? Unless you're a rich white queer in the West End then your perception is understandable. Classism is alive here in the queer community. While you're living in your West End bubble, poor queers, working poor, queers of color, queers with disabilities, and queers with a conscience are still facing oppression. Brought to you by Pink Resistance.
Droszio, vancouver bc
01/22/10 4:11 PM EST
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