Artists to Pride Toronto: Freedom of expression should be offensive
TORONTO NEWS / Wong-Tam calls for public meeting
Scott Dagostino / National / Tuesday, March 16, 2010
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Members of Queers Against Israeli Apartheid in the 2009 Toronto Pride Parade.
(Peter Bevan)
With Pride Toronto's announcement that it will craft a "freedom of expression policy" as a guide to acceptable messages at the parade, executive director Tracy Sandilands insists, "Let's bring it out and see what people think about it."

But Pride Toronto is already behind the curve, says David Demchuk, a writer and a member of the rapidly growing Don't Sanitize Pride Facebook group.

"A freedom of expression policy sounds offensively Orwellian from the start," says Demchuk.

Pride's goal may be to see marchers playing well with others, but that's misguided, he says.

"I think it's always sweetly amusing when people say 'protesters should be nicer.' Well, no," he says. "Maybe they're not trying to get you to sympathize — that's too much work — maybe they're just trying to get you to be aware."

An earlier Pride Toronto press release read, "Participating groups will be asked to ensure that messages support the theme of the 2010 festival." It also read that an "ethics committee" would review signage. Sandilands subsequently wrote on Pride Toronto's Facebook page, "None of this is anything new."

In an interview with Xtra on March 16, Sandilands tried to minimize the scope of the change and said a "free expression policy" was under development and would be circulated for community feedback.

"All we are trying to do is make sure we have measures in place to deal with any problems that may arise from violence or hate speech," she says.

Still, it doesn't sit well with Demchuk. While Pride as an organization should strive to be politically neutral, he says, its participants shouldn't be neutered.

"Pride as an event — particularly the Parade — has a tradition of politics and progressivism. You don't have to support everything in the parade," he says, "but Pride is elastic enough to withstand most messaging."

"It's not inconceivable that we could now have an LGBT pro-life group marching," he laughs. "Probably only six people, but if they're brave enough to march with the understanding that it's a progressive parade, of course they should be allowed to. I don't care if people are Zionists or Zoroastrians. I only care about freedom of speech."

Playwright Brad Fraser agrees.

"Censorship coming from the gay community puts us uncomfortably close to our oppressors, and that makes me very nervous," says Fraser. "The very idea of the march itself is a political one, and if we start censoring messages where do we stop?"

Calling Pride's new ethics committee "ridiculous and offensive," novelist Zoe Whittall says she heard similar arguments while living in Montreal.

"Montreal Pride tried to tell people not to wear leather or be slutty, to show the straights that we are normal, and the queer community responded with joyful, naked, in-your-face, slutty chaos," she says. "I think these kinds of decisions are only going to backfire for the people who make them."

"Counter-demonstrations seem to work well," says Fraser, but ultimately, "Pride has to decide for itself whether it's just a fun event promoted to lure straight people to spending their money in our neighbourhood or if it has something more going on."

Meanwhile, gallery owner and city council candidate Kristyn Wong-Tam suggests "Pride Toronto convene a community meeting as soon as possible to clarify its position on vetting signage. The meeting should be co-facilitated by two people chosen by the community and Pride Toronto.

"The whole discussion is starting to escalate into a chaotic online shouting match. This will not conclude well for our community," she says.




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Reader Comments


 
Community forum a good idea
An open community forum is the only way we're going to get straight-up answers from Pride that aren't filtered through PR consultants.
P, toronto on
03/16/10 7:25 PM EST
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Not an easy decision......
Remember where we came from! In the beginning, Pride was more about protest than celebration. We were "in your face". BUT, on the other side of the coin, I'm not sure I would fully support Demchuk's assertion that "Pride is elastic enough to withstand most messaging". I don't think I would want to be on Yonge when a Zionist or pro-life group marched in our parade. Although, maybe it would be fun........
Darryl, Regina Saskatchewan
03/17/10 12:30 AM EST
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What?
A "freedom of expression policy"? Last time I checked, freedom of expression did not require a policy. The only possible thing such a policy can do is limit freedom of expression, not enhance it. That, of course, is the idea. I hate it that the Pride committee has such a low opinion of this communities intellect. What Pride should announce is that they are now actively looking to censor (and that is the correct word) Pride. That is the truth. To play this game with different words to make it sound oh so palatable because the term includes "freedom of expression" makes me gag.
Peter Bochove, Toronto Ontario
03/17/10 2:13 PM EST
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Double standard
There is a "double standard" here. Gay Leftists scream "freedom of expression" when Palestinian Muslims and their supporters want to march in the Pride parade and say hateful things about Jewish people who support Israel (e.g., holding up signs equating Jews who support Israel with Nazis). Yet, the same Gay Leftists make complaints to human rights commissions and other authorities when fundamentalist Christians and "Murder Music" Jamaican musicians say hateful things about gays.
Pete, Toronto Ontario
03/17/10 8:54 PM EST
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When
When will these idiots realized they are in bed with the wrong people. Palestinians gay's are force to live in Israel becasue they are hated by Palestinian society because they are gay. I just say just ask Palestinian Gays how Palestinian Society treats them I dare them just ask them what do they have to hide? If Pride wants to express solidarity with Palestinian Gays they should lose these idiots. Palestinian gay's are hated not by Israel they are hated by their own society and they are force to live there and Israel has no problem in accepting them into Israeli society and I still is wondering A) tell QuAIA to ask gay Palestinians living in Israel how Palestinian society treats them and when will they have their pride march in Gaza or the West Bank????? or what is stopping them. Pride send a clear message that these Hatemongers have no place in Pride what's next are they going to let the KKK into pride since they also oppose Zionism and @ Pete, Toronto Ontario could not agree more there is a double standard and Gay leftest just don't get.
Charles, Halifax Nova Scotia
03/17/10 9:54 PM EST
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Pride has always been about selected messaging
This is an interesting debate - and one that is well worth having - just remember, that Pride, as a movement has always been about selective messaging! Weather they were social, personal, political or societal messages/ protests,we as a larger community mostly agreed with them! Not, so anymore...as our communities get more diverse, we are going to encounter messages that we don't agree with and that, could cross a line into hate speech. As an assocation, Toronto Pride, has a responsibility, like it or not, to craft guidelines on banners, messages etc. Every single group that has a parade, has to do the same. The real concern here, is ' who' gets to decide what messages are ok, and which ones are not allowed. We wouldn't marchers into a Pride Parade with ' god hates fags' or' lets pray your gay away' signs.... under the banner of freedom of expression. Nor would we want to allow only one political persepective to be heard ( Palastin supporters over Zionists ) I think a set of guidelines is a good idea. How it unfolds is up to the local communities and their groups. Use your voice if you disagree. Remember to disagree with the idea not the person. Let me say this, I was deeply offended when I saw the banner Queers Against the Israel Aparhateid from the pix of the Toronto Pride Parade last year. It saddened me to see this. I personally do not believe that what is happening now, between Israel and Palastine is anything like what took place in SA. To compare the two,is in my mind, infantile and ignorant. So, the issue is now raised. The horse is out of the barn...and we must deal with it. When a group is looking at guidelines around what they deem acceptable for their parade or not, they have to ask the questions - what is the ultimate goal of Pride? what do we wish to encourage in the Parade? whad do we wish to discourage in the Parade? Pride has never been about being all things to all people.
Brad, Winnipeg MB
03/18/10 1:41 PM EST
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hypocrisy rules
Is criticism of Israel anti-Semitic? The answer of course is: sometimes! How can you tell the difference between a just critic and a rabid anti-Semite? Easy: a fair-minded person will criticize BOTH Israel and the Palestinians, because BOTH sides have gone to extremes and BOTH sides have committed atrocities; in fact, if you are going to cite Israel for "war-crimes", you have to also cite the Palestinians for the SAME thing, because they have been targeting civilians for decades. So, a non-anti-Semite will criticize both sides, an anti-Semite will ONLY target Israel for criticism. Has anyone here EVER heard the typical gay leftists EVER make a criticism of the Palestinians for ANYTHING? Hahahah...hardly! Well, guess why? Meanwhile, there is LOTS to criticize. Their use of their own children and civilians as human shields, the inclusion of the idea that Jews ANYWHERE in the world (and not just Israelis) are justifiable targets for assassination as part of Hamas' Charter...unfortunately you will NEVER hear any of this mentioned by those who think that one-sided criticism is not inherently anti-Semitic. Well, if it isn't, why do you let Palestinian atrocities go undisputed? Hmmm? Answer: sheer hypocrisy. Gay Pride should be about GAYS... and perhaps homophobia. Let them protest other things the other 364 days of the year. Showing up at Pride to criticize Israel is just opportunism, plain and simple.
Ken, PAris France
03/26/10 9:31 PM EST
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Who Lives Under Occupation Ken?
Israel is the occupier, Palestinians the occupied. When Palesinians are finally allowed the right to self-determination then both sides would deserve equal criticism.
W Matthews, Toronto ON
03/27/10 8:50 AM EST
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Focusing is NOT Cencorship
Queers Against Israeli Apartheid Pride Parade photos show Lesbians (??) carrying the sign, one wearing a short sleeved blouse with revealing breast contour, showing bare arms, and cut jeans showing bare legs. Others with similar tight clothing with bare midriff. -- In which Moslem country could they get away with their life and/or freedom with such attire and self declaration as Queer? Certainly not in Palestine !! -- The LGBT Pride Parade in Toronto should be about Gay issues. -- Iran gives Gays a choice: to go to jail, or have themselves mutilated with sex-change surgery. That is more of a Gay issue. Why not protest that in the Pride Parade ?? -- Pride should have a focus check. Compared to Caribana, Pride is a very boring parade, of a mish-mosh of scattered and spread-out groups of people walkin' around, carrying poorly made signs along with unrelated advertising trucks, all going on for hours longer than it needs to. We don't need more out-of-context political crap to dilute the event even more. It's not censorship but focusing and streamlining.
Pride Needs Focus, Toronto ONT
04/12/10 3:29 AM EST
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